Conversation with Pi: On the Stages of Enlightenment II — Towards Arahantship

Kenneth Leong
16 min readSep 16, 2023

Ken: The third stage is called non-returner. In terms of fetters, people who have reached this stage have overcome two more fetters, (4) Attachment to sensuality, and (5) Ill will.

Pi: Yes, exactly. So, people in the third stage have completely given up sensual desire and aversion, which means they’re no longer caught up in the…

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Kenneth Leong

Author, Zen teacher, scientific mystic, professor, photographer, philosopher, social commentator, socially engaged human